Let's see some chop at the top at UC! We should see that before agreeing to anything. President Yudof is getting feedback saying that across the board salary cuts are unacceptable.
The SF City workers got a 3% raise but had to give up their paid holidays.
I am a single parent and a pay cut for any percentage would greatly impact me financially therefore mentally as well.
One of my reasons for apply to the University for a job was to find a career and a home for advancement and learning opportunities with the reality of having to face a pay cut and furloughs I do not believe that the University will offer longevity and the room for advancement.
This University is known for its renown research and stability in the work world as well as the world of education and having to harm the laborers with reducing their pay at a time when everything to survive on is going up, is as hurtful as saying you are not valuable to us and your use is no longer a backbone to researchers and those that utilize your skills to promote, advance and continue their research and/or work.
I propose that a pay cut to the top earners in proportion to the budget is the action to take. By the way, they have all (just about) received their pay raises at a substantial increase that makes any increase I would receive a payment towards renting jet skis. This is a serious matter and should be handles as such. Keep your University thriving by keeping the good folks you have hired above water and not waddling as we already are?
I suspect that the majority of those who provided feedback on the 3 cost cutting proposals favored time off rather than pay cuts in an effort to protect their basic wage level. However, I work half time and provide insurance, thought my benefits package at UCI, for myself and my husband. I am concerned that time off could jeapardize those benefits.
The bottom line is...either we accept pay cuts or be laid off. The union workers are going to be laid off if we don't agree to pay cuts. Standing strong in a soup line doesn't appeal to me. Wake up people don't give your job away because it's too hard finding another one.The reality is...it's going to happen with or without CUE's approval. Please understand we are fighting a losing battle! CUE member.
The furloughs are necessary to save jobs. Layoffs are inevitable however we can reduce the number by accepting the furlough or come to the table with a REASONABLE counter offer. I am not pleased with the way CUE handled their demand for cost of living increases. I don’t recall the exact details but a couple years ago or so unrepresented employees received a cost of living increase (1% or 2%?). CUE went to the table with an unreasonable demand of around 15%. In the end, we received nothing and certainly won’t now. That 1% or 2% could have offset our future pay reductions.
I favor the furlough plan. I'd rather have a job than be laid off. At this point, if CUE opposes the furlough plan or doesn't come up with alternative that comes up with the same cost savings in a reasonable manner, I'm going to go back to paying agency fees. The state's budget are ongoing and structural and I suspect that state support will continue to decline. Even UC's fabled rainy day fund can't fix that.
The right way to fix this is for all of us to become honest with ourselves.
People at the top get seriously huge salaries, but are not held accountable for how badly they are managing the university. If they saw consequences in their paychecks I would stomach the cuts.
On the other end of the spectrum people making far less are not exactly living it up, but many get something out of it for nothing in return.
We all have worked with the type who blog, youtube and facebook it all day, show up late, talk to their friends all day, call in sick or use the excuse of forgotten password when they need to actually do something, ignore emails for months, ... and on and on. Some people have been working together for decades and have a clique to protects them all from any kind of real work.
Yes, it is a supervision and management problem, but however little the benefit, they still manage to get something for nothing.
If we want to be honest and fair, we will all speak out against waste of all kinds, and strive to do our best in whatever position we have. I don't want the univ to become a sweatshop of underpaid labor, but we need to find ways to eliminate waste even when we responsible for it.
Some senior people who have never seen how the rest of the world functions and are secure in their seniority have no inclination to change the terms of the debate. They only focus on the very narrow argument that suits their own interest; pretty much what the execs do when they get their bonuses no matter the results.
Again, it comes down to what we want in the end. We all say we want fairness, but when it comes to how this might affect our pure individual gain out of it, we conveniently construct arguments to cast ourselves as the victim.
Unfair is people who love to work, and aspire for something better are let go or held back, and those that are protected by years of seniority and have no desire to make things better, or changing the way they work to fit the times, staying on.
Everyone says they want change, but what they really want is for everyone else to change. Everyone but themselves.
There is no justification for those extravagant salaries. They are paid all this money to crack down on the waste that happens at all levels. Ultimately, they have the responsibility to make things run fairly and smoothly.
It's easy to be inclined to imitate that behavior in our lower level positions, but "an eye for an eye" makes everyone blind.
In my department they are laying off all the younger hires who have been working way more than the rest of my team put together, and with real passion. When they are all gone, there is no way that my team will actually change their ways and start do any of the work they were hired to do. Everyone has a constructed a very long list of reason for why they won't do a, b and c, but they all know that they are getting paid to do it.
In my team, we even have one person who blames the univ. for introducing technology like bspace and expecting her to figure out how to use it. Yet, she has somehow found the technical skill to figure out facebook and twitter and be on them all day. At $40K + ~ $10K in benefits, the university is paying a heck of a lot for one's person's facebook addiction. Someone tried to do something about this a few months back, but she filed a grievance about bspace being too hard for her to use, despite offers to take a training course, etc. The union backed her up completely and no-one dares ask her to do anything now. She's got seniority and bumped 3 very good junior people so far.
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hi. please stand strong. mary higgins
I love this!!! Let's get this going for the members to blog!
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Yes, this is GREAT! I love it...let's get it to our members asap!
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Hello All,
Glad to see that we're live!
SBLocal #1
The State of California has a budget crisis but UC DOES NOT HAVE A BUDGET CRISIS! It's important for all of us to remember that.
Let's see some chop at the top at UC! We should see that before agreeing to anything. President Yudof is getting feedback saying that across the board salary cuts are unacceptable.
The SF City workers got a 3% raise but had to give up their paid holidays.
Maria McDevitt, Local 6
Tops first needs to be reduced, with their high paying jobs!
Yes, those who make more should
have their paychecks reduced more. 8%
is not enough for those at the top.
By the way, I like this CUE Union Blog.
pay cuts should start @10,000 = 1%
20,000 = 2%
30,000 = 3%
40,000 = 4%
50,000 = 5%
60,000 = 6%
70,000 = 7%
80,000 = 8%
90,000 = 9%
100,000 = 10%
110,000 = 11%
120,000 = 12%
etc.
I am a single parent and a pay cut for any percentage would greatly impact me financially therefore mentally as well.
One of my reasons for apply to the University for a job was to find a career and a home for advancement and learning opportunities with the reality of having to face a pay cut and furloughs I do not believe that the University will offer longevity and the room for advancement.
This University is known for its renown research and stability in the work world as well as the world of education and having to harm the laborers with reducing their pay at a time when everything to survive on is going up, is as hurtful as saying you are not valuable to us and your use is no longer a backbone to researchers and those that utilize your skills to promote, advance and continue their research and/or work.
I propose that a pay cut to the top earners in proportion to the budget is the action to take. By the way, they have all (just about) received their pay raises at a substantial increase that makes any increase I would receive a payment towards renting jet skis. This is a serious matter and should be handles as such. Keep your University thriving by keeping the good folks you have hired above water and not waddling as we already are?
Very concerned and disenchanted!
I suspect that the majority of those who provided feedback on the 3 cost cutting proposals favored time off rather than pay cuts in an effort to protect their basic wage level. However, I work half time and provide insurance, thought my benefits package at UCI, for myself and my husband. I am concerned that time off could jeapardize those benefits.
The bottom line is...either we accept pay cuts or be laid off. The union workers are going to be laid off if we don't agree to pay cuts. Standing strong in a soup line doesn't appeal to me. Wake up people don't give your job away because it's too hard finding another one.The reality is...it's going to happen with or without CUE's approval. Please understand we are fighting a losing battle! CUE member.
The furloughs are necessary to save jobs. Layoffs are inevitable however we can reduce the number by accepting the furlough or come to the table with a REASONABLE counter offer. I am not pleased with the way CUE handled their demand for cost of living increases. I don’t recall the exact details but a couple years ago or so unrepresented employees received a cost of living increase (1% or 2%?). CUE went to the table with an unreasonable demand of around 15%. In the end, we received nothing and certainly won’t now. That 1% or 2% could have offset our future pay reductions.
I favor the furlough plan. I'd rather have a job than be laid off. At this point, if CUE opposes the furlough plan or doesn't come up with alternative that comes up with the same cost savings in a reasonable manner, I'm going to go back to paying agency fees. The state's budget are ongoing and structural and I suspect that state support will continue to decline. Even UC's fabled rainy day fund can't fix that.
The right way to fix this is for all of us to become honest with ourselves.
People at the top get seriously huge salaries, but are not held accountable for how badly they are managing the university. If they saw consequences in their paychecks I would stomach the cuts.
On the other end of the spectrum people making far less are not exactly living it up, but many get something out of it for nothing in return.
We all have worked with the type who blog, youtube and facebook it all day, show up late, talk to their friends all day, call in sick or use the excuse of forgotten password when they need to actually do something, ignore emails for months, ... and on and on. Some people have been working together for decades and have a clique to protects them all from any kind of real work.
Yes, it is a supervision and management problem, but however little the benefit, they still manage to get something for nothing.
If we want to be honest and fair, we will all speak out against waste of all kinds, and strive to do our best in whatever position we have. I don't want the univ to become a sweatshop of underpaid labor, but we need to find ways to eliminate waste even when we responsible for it.
Some senior people who have never seen how the rest of the world functions and are secure in their seniority have no inclination to change the terms of the debate. They only focus on the very narrow argument that suits their own interest; pretty much what the execs do when they get their bonuses no matter the results.
Again, it comes down to what we want in the end. We all say we want fairness, but when it comes to how this might affect our pure individual gain out of it, we conveniently construct arguments to cast ourselves as the victim.
Unfair is people who love to work, and aspire for something better are let go or held back, and those that are protected by years of seniority and have no desire to make things better, or changing the way they work to fit the times, staying on.
Everyone says they want change, but what they really want is for everyone else to change. Everyone but themselves.
There is no justification for those extravagant salaries. They are paid all this money to crack down on the waste that happens at all levels. Ultimately, they have the responsibility to make things run fairly and smoothly.
It's easy to be inclined to imitate that behavior in our lower level positions, but "an eye for an eye" makes everyone blind.
In my department they are laying off all the younger hires who have been working way more than the rest of my team put together, and with real passion. When they are all gone, there is no way that my team will actually change their ways and start do any of the work they were hired to do. Everyone has a constructed a very long list of reason for why they won't do a, b and c, but they all know that they are getting paid to do it.
In my team, we even have one person who blames the univ. for introducing technology like bspace and expecting her to figure out how to use it. Yet, she has somehow found the technical skill to figure out facebook and twitter and be on them all day. At $40K + ~ $10K in benefits, the university is paying a heck of a lot for one's person's facebook addiction. Someone tried to do something about this a few months back, but she filed a grievance about bspace being too hard for her to use, despite offers to take a training course, etc. The union backed her up completely and no-one dares ask her to do anything now. She's got seniority and bumped 3 very good junior people so far.
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